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Faceless void dotafire11/18/2023 I have had that type of games, but you should be able to handle it if your teammates know what they are doing. The reason carry void is good in pubs is because pubs suck at spreading out, and high teamfight teams are usually really good in pubs. Well he didnt really own at TI4, carry void was really unsuccesfull, and offlane void was a bit overpicked and only good when picked by a team tht was good with him. So.what other tips do you have against Void-based lineups that don't involve desperate Morphling ratting? :) I sniped the last rax with Manta a few minutes later and got megacreeps. My team got wiped but meanwhile, I got two sets of rax (^^). I had my replicate waiting in another lane and I immediately pressed the Morph Replicate button, escaping the impending chrono at the last second and ditching my team to go push their base. Void jumped in, and he was going to get a 4-man chrono including me if I didn't react at the last minute and act like a complete prick. During that time I started playing 100% rat dota, they had a Furion in their team so I was always on my own split pushing lanes just to counter Furion, and I ended up sniping a T3 tower and a rax.Īnd then, a big teamfight broke out. Then it started being an absolute stalemate for 40 minutes when essentially nothing happened, and the only fights were at Rosh. Predictably, we got wrecked in teamfights by their stupid combo. My team was owning the early game so we started to push at around 16 mins. But I really did some.pretty desperate/controversial things :) Yesterday I *finally* won my first game against one of these Void lineups. But Omni needs to be farming also, he really needs that Aghanim's Scepter to counter-initiate from a distance and not be caught in chrono, and Refresher Orb really helps - but how do you farm with an Omni? doom bringer is an obvious counter to Void as well. Omniknight works also because he counters both Void's damage in chrono and Death Prophet/ Witch Doctor's physical damage. But he needs to play solo mid/farming silencer not support. Most obvious is Silencer to ruin their initiation. This works, but there are very very few of them. This is the most obvious counter to pure teamfight lineups, but Faceless Void will just hunt down your Furion and solo kill him. So.how to hard counter these lineups? I've tried lots and lots of things. So they have ridiculously strong early and mid game, and unstoppable late game because they have a Void. Chronosphere is basically Black Hole without the cooldown, and without the channeling part. Whenever I play a lineup like this I win, whenever I play against a lineup like this I lose, it's that simple. But you can't push against a lineup like this because they'll just do their cheap combo in chrono and wreck your team completely. Void is already a pretty broken carry because he's almost impossible to gank, the only way to prevent a Void from farming is to push his base. I think these kind of lineups are pretty OP because they wreck teamfights at any point in the game. It's very easy to lane a lineup like this, Void trilane with Witch Doctor/ Jakiro supports, Death Prophet mid, and Tidehunter offlane or something. Doing this allows you to own teamfights even in the early-mid game when Void doesn't have enough farm to deal damage in chrono. The idea is very simple : play Faceless Void as your carry, and pick a lot of heroes whose skills work in Chronosphere and allow to deal damage in chrono. So these Faceless Void based lineups have owned TI4, and they own pubs as well.
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